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Video Interview on Tech Ticker: Roubini: "Bear Market Only Half Over, But It's Not Armageddon"

Jul 22, 2008 6:20PM

This morning I gave a video interview at Yahoo Finance's Tech Ticker; this video interview elaborated on my latest detailed article about "The Coming Systemic Bust of the US Banking System: Dead Stocks Rallying".

The first part "Roubini: Bear Market only Half Over, But It's Not Amageddon" of this three-part video interview can be found here.

The second part "Roubini: Nationalize Housing or Worsening Slump Leads to Massive Bank Failures" is here .

And the third part "'They're All Toast': Roubini Says Brokers, Even Goldman, Can't Stay Independent" is here. ...

And here are the Tech Ticker stories that came with that three-part video interview:

Bear Market only Half Over, But It's Not Amageddon Posted Jul 22, 2008 11:40am EDT by Aaron Task in Investing, Newsmakers, Recession, Banking
Related: ^DJI, ^SPX, ^IXIC, SPY, DIA, XLF
One of the most noted skeptics on Wall Street, NYU Professor Nouriel Roubini says the financial system is in "the worst crisis since the Great Depression," and that the bear market in stocks is only half over.Subprime mortgages are only the tip of the bad-loan iceberg, says Roubini, who expects the "subprime financial system" to ultimately suffer credit-related losses of between $1 trillion and $2 trillion vs. the approximately $330 billion thus far.Roubini believes the economy slid into recession in the first quarter of 2008 and will remain there until the second quarter of 2009, with "subpar growth" likely to characterize the recovery.That's the (very) bad news.The good news is Roubini, who also chairs research firm RGE Monitor, is "not in the Armageddon camp."The economist sees a "severe recession" that will last 12-to-18 months, but does not foresee the U.S. sliding into a prolonged Japan-like economic malaise.Similarly, while further 20% declines for major averages isn't pretty, it won't be as bad as the bursting of the tech bubble or the Great Depression for stocks, which Roubini sees starting to recover later this year/early next year.
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Roubini: More than $1 Trillion is Needed to Resolve the Housing Crisis Posted Jul 22, 2008 05:42pm EDT by Aaron Task in Newsmakers, Recession, Banking
Related: FNM, FRE, XLF, WM, WB, WFC, BAC
Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson has been putting on a full-court press in the last 24 hours, making the case for his plan to shore-up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac."I would rather not be in the position of asking for extraordinary authorities to support the GSEs," Paulson said in a speech Tuesday in NYC. "But I am playing the hand that I have been dealt. There is a need to support efforts that strengthen Fannie and Freddie's ability to continue to play their important role in financing mortgages and in our capital markets more broadly."The timing of Paulson's speech -- and various and sundry media appearances -- is not coincidental. This week, Congress is expected to vote on housing legislation that includes Paulson's plan, which a GAO report said is likely to cost the government $25 billion. But $25 billion -- or even the GAO's worst-case $100 billion estimate -- pales in comparison to the cost of doing nothing, says Nouriel Roubini, NYU professor and chairman of RGE Monitor."We have to find a solution where government intervention prevents a disorderly outcome" in the housing market that leads to a "systemic banking crisis," Roubini says.The housing bill, which earmarks $300 billion to backstop mortgages after lenders agree to lower mortgage payments, is "a step in the right direction" but "doesn't do enough," he says, predicting the government will ultimately need to spend more than $1 trillion.Roubini's main concern stems from a view that the "housing recession is not bottoming by any standards," in contrast to hopeful comments from Paulson on Fox News and Barron's last weekend.The economist believes U.S. home prices will ultimately fall 30% from their peak -- vs. 18% to date according to the S&P Case-Shiller Index -- "before bottoming out some point in 2010."In the interim, the negative wealth effect of declining home values and increase in "underwater" mortgages will lead to more Americans walking away from their homes. Such "jingle mail" threatens to ultimately cost $1 trillion in credit losses, wiping out 75% of the capital of U.S. financial institutions, Roubini warns.

It is that "disorderly" outcome Roubini says the government cannot afford to let happen. With "the charade" that Fannie and Freddie weren't already government agencies over, he believes a nationalization of the 50% of mortgages not owned or guaranteed by Fannie and Freddie will be necessary, and the Frank-Dodd Bill is a small step down that road.

From Roubini's view, nationalizing housing avoids the government having to nationalization the entire banking system, making it the lesser of two evils.

They are All Toast: Roubini Says Brokers, Even Goldman, Can't Stay Independent
Posted Jul 22, 2008 05:09pm EDT by Aaron Task in Investing, Newsmakers, Recession, Banking
Related: GS, LEH, MS, MER, JPM, BAC, C
The broker/dealer business model is "inherently unstable" and the four remaining major firms will not be independent in a few years, says Nouriel Roubini, economics professor at NYU's Stern School and chairman of RGE Monitor.Embattled Lehman Brothers is likely to seek a buyer "within months," Roubini says. Lehman Brothers ceasing to be independent is not such a shocking outcome, but Roubini ultimately sees a similar outcome for Goldman, Merrill Lynch, and Morgan Stanley.The problem, he says, is that broker/dealers use the same model as banks -- borrow short and lend long -- only they borrow on even shorter timeframes, use more leverage, and don't have the kind of government backstop banks enjoy.In the wake of Bear Stearns' demise, which showed how brokers are vulnerable to a "run on the bank" if they can't get overnight funding, the Fed temporarily opened its discount window to brokerage firms. But making that option permanent means submitting to the same kind of regulation and capital requirements as banks; that, in turn, means a very different business model -- and much lower profitability -- for Wall Street firms, whose current business model is "not viable," he says.With U.S. financial giants like JPMorgan, Citigroup, and Bank of America dealing with internal issues, the most likely buyers are international financial firms or sovereign wealth funds, Roubini says. But unlike in 2007, foreigners are not going to settle for preferred shares, and non-voting rights next time around.That raises the questions: Is America ready for (true) foreign ownership of major financial institutions? And do we have a choice?

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